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  1. Your Discord Name: penis retard 69#6090 Staff Member That Banned You: Motato Ban Reason: "hitting women in 2019 :pogU:" What Happened: Some guy was talking about how to pick up women or something and said "goto the bar, hit women, ez" or something very similar. Basically he meant to put "hit up" but forgot the "up" part, so I was giving him static and typed "hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: " in a single message and got banned. I apologize if I offended anyone as that wasn't my intent, I was just making a joke that I will admit was in bad taste. I grew up in a home where there was domestic abuse and I understand that in reality it's not a laughing matter at all. If I am accepted back, I understand that I will not get another chance and will have to be on my best behavior. Thanks. Did you break any rules?: Yes - No explicit rules banned as far as I know, but obviously someone was not okay with what I said and thought I needed a ban from it. Witnesses: Motato Do you regret doing what you did?: Yes. I regret it so much. I'm addicted to this game and this server, and I just want to be able to play and enjoy it like I used to. It's not the same without the discord. Do you promise not to break any rules after your ban?: Yes
  2. Your Discord Name: penis retard 69#6090 Staff Member That Banned You: moat - I think. Discord doesn't tell you/let you know. Ban Reason: "hitting women in 2019 :pogU:" What Happened: Some guy was talking about how to pick up women or something and said "goto the bar, hit women, ez" or something very similar. Basically he meant to put "hit up" but forgot the "up" part, so I was giving him static and typed "hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: hitting women in 2019 :pogU: " in a single message and got banned. I apologize if I offended anyone as that wasn't my intent, I was just making a joke that I will admit was in bad taste. I grew up in a home where there was domestic abuse and I understand that in reality it's not a laughing matter at all. If I am accepted back, I understand that I will not get another chance and will have to be on my best behavior. Thanks. Did you break any rules?: Yes - No explicit rules banned as far as I know, but obviously someone was not okay with what I said and thought I needed a ban from it. Witnesses: moat Do you regret doing what you did?: Yes. Very much so. Do you promise not to break any rules after your ban?: Yes
  3. In-Game Name of Offender: Pridest SteamID of Offender: STEAM_0117617202 Which server was this on?: TTT Minecraft #1 Date of Incident: 08/10/2019 Report Reason: Purposeful Revenge RDM What Happened: Round 5: I killed Pridest off of association due to Karma Is Tired killing Lags while Pridest was occupying the same room as them as seen in the video. Pridest was not happy about this and PM'd me as seen in the screenshots. I told him my exact reasons which in my opinion are valid. Round 7: The round starts and he purposely Revenge RDMs me as seen in the video. Were there any staff members online? If yes, who?: No Witnesses: Evidence: I will make multiple posts due to file size limits. Pridest_RDM_KFC_Manager.mp4 Do you understand you may not flame/harass in the replies?: Yes
  4. All quotes come from this post: http://www.moatgaming.org/forums/topic/1738-server-rule-revisement/?do=findComment&comment=9487 I agree with Professor Plum 100%. It doesn't make sense that players are penilized for using an integral part of not only the game but basic human function, sound.Instead of giving players who are not good at TTT an excuse to get someone else slayed because they were not being as sneaky as they thought they were, why not increase the actual skill cap of the game and let people who can use logic based deductions or logical thoughts to see if someone could indeed be a traitor, as well as decrease the workload for moderators who are already busy by not having to deal with a lot of reports where players who had (what should be considered) a valid reason to kill someone. An argument against this is that giving players another reason to be able to kill someone is open to abuse. The killer in ANY situation should already have a reason as to why they are shooting someone correct? (See Rule 1). If I was a traitor my reason for killing someone is that they are another non-traitor player in the game. If I am an innocent/detective then my reason for killing someone is because they have performed the actions of one of the traitors to accomplish their objective in the game. If I can use logic-based reasoning to kill someone, and it all adds up, why should I be slain for the next two rounds? While there is some grey-area in the example given here, how about an example where there is 4 people on the server. 1 Traitor, 2 Innocents, and one spectator who also happens to be an admin. The map is one flat map with a single small room with no windows, and the only way into or out of the room is the front door. You are an innocent this round, and you watch as two players walk into the room but you are a moderate distance away and are unable to see into the room before they shut the door. Moments later you hear large amount of gun fire, and the sound of someone dying. The round doesn't end so you use your logic that the player who is still alive in the room is indeed the traitor. You run in there and kill him to win the round. The traitor can now report you for RDM and have you slain for two rounds because you did not physically see him with your own eyes kill the other player, but instead you used a logical thought process to conclude that he was infact the traitor. A real example that happened to me the other day was I was sitting with my back against a wall and another wall about 50 meters to my left, with a small hut next to it that was all glass walls so you could see directly into it and through it. I was sitting and waiting to see if a Traitor would do anything around me or even infront of me as I faced the rest of the map and used positional audio to see what was going on. I hear gunshots to my left, and the sound of someone dying, but I didn't see it happening live with my own eyes. I snapped my aim to the left and saw a dead body on the floor (though the glass so I couldn't see that it was unidentified) with a single player walking past it, checked the upper right to see if anyone had identified a body in the past few seconds and when there was none, I shot the player in the corner. He reported me for RDM and said there was no way I could have known that it was him who killed the other player. I tried to explain to both him and the Trial Mod that was on that I used the fact that I literally just heard someone die from that area, watched him walk past a body, no bodies were identified recently, and that the traitor I killed was literally the only alive player in that entire section of the map as the reason behind me shooting him. I was given a 2-round slay and the Trial Mod told me there's pretty much nothing I can do about it and when I questioned if he ever used logic in his thought processing during the game he told me he only acts on something if he sees it with his own eyes. That is absolutely false and completely unavoidable unless you are playing the game deaf. If someone plants a C4 and you hear it, you are most likely going to run. You aren't going to stay in the same area and pretend like it's not there. If you make any decision differently than you would have if you hadn't heard the C4 then you are using logic to tell yourself to leave the area. If someone starts shooting behind you but doesn't actually hit you, you are going to turn around because the sound came from behind you and if your whole objective is to stay alive, the logical thing to do is turn around and see who or what made that sound. Players are still humans, they are not bots. By taking a human element out of the game, you are limiting the skill of the players who are actually good at the game to make the players who are actually terrible at it feel better about themselves. The only thing I have to say about the definition of metagaming is that it states any strategy or action that "goes beyond the supposed limits or environment set by the game." How could someone argue that sound is not apart of the limits set by the game or a part of the environment of the game? If I remember correctly when Garry's Mod was created, the creator intended to put sound into the game. Why not use it?
  5. Your Steam Display Name: Throw Dat Ass In A Prayer Circle Your In-Game Name: Throw Dat Ass In A Prayer Circl Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:35629476 Which server were you banned on?: MoatGaming TTT (74.91.122.45:27015) Staff Member That Banned You: Dante Reason Banned: Report was made against me for "Harassment/RDM" How Long You Were Banned: The ban didn't say how long so I am assuming it is permanent. What Happened: Explained below. Did You Break Any Rules: (Yes/No) Yes. Rule 1 - "Do not kill off suspicion or for a random reason outside of the current round/game." I will fully admit that yes at some point while playing a little past midnight on 12/09/2016 that I did infact RDM some people. However I was not trying to RDM with intention to ruin anyone's game or to just cause chaos. I don't have access to logs/demos or screenshots to back up what I'm saying but at the time the server was in a state of chaos anyways. I had been playing for a few hours already and after all the staff members signed off, the server went fine and smoothly for a while. No one was RDMing or trolling. A few maps later, a group of trolls joined the server and proceeded to start RDMing and causing chaos. I was swept up into it but not to kill the players who were playing as intended, I was playing AGAINST the trolls who were ruining the game. While I may have accidentally shot or killed someone who was actually trying to enjoy the game I can assure you that I did NOT intend to and I apologize to anyone who I may have upset. I also understand that Revenge RDM is looked down upon as well. It was an error in my judgement by fighting fire with fire, and I regret that decision of mine greatly. If allowed to come back, I will use the resources made available to me such as the Discord to notify staff or call for help. If no help is available I can and will just use the forums as a method of keeping record and reporting players who are on the server to actually ruin the experience of others. Rule 4 "Do not harass other players." All night including when staff WAS on, and when staff was NOT on the server there was many players harassing and taking shots at eachother. I assumed everyone was just having fun taking shots at eachother. While I do like to get wild with my mouth, I don't ever want to make someone actually feel bad about who they are or what is going on. I might talk smack/trash on your gaming but there is a difference between trash talk and trying to marginalize someone to cause them unrest. I do NOT try to cross that line ever. I try to make sure that people know I am being very sarcastic and am just trying to have a good time like everyone else. We're all just on here to play games and have fun anyways. If I actually did not like someone, I just ignore them because I do not have anything good to say to them and I'm not someone who intentionally wants to ruin anyone else's day. For example, at some point during the night before (12/08/2016) another player (Name started with a W, but can't remember the rest) told me about how he has epilepsy. I joked with him about it. I made a reference to the Pokemon episode where over 50+ kids were sent to the hospital due to flashing lights shown in an episode and not only did he laugh, he actually explained to me how his epilepsy works and some of the differences between epilepsy types. I actually learned something from him (I was interested how he was able to play Garry's Mod with epilepsy) by making jokes about a topic some people find quite serious. I don't have any exact quotes from him or have him added on Steam but he seemed to be having a good time joking around and enjoyed sharing with him his personal story. Everyone wants to just be treated normally, and what I strive to do. My take on the report/evidence: During that night I was calling everyone anything, as was a majority of the other players on the server. It was absolutely a free for all last night. I do regret the decisions I made that night and wish I would have taken the higher road and gotten on the Discord to alert the available staff or even just simply signed off for the night instead of joining in with the majority but honestly I thought everyone was having a good time. I apologise to anyone who I may have offended or caused to be upset by not taking into perspective not just the majority of the server's population of the current the situation, but the minority as well. I should have and will in the future, try to not just think of the major players on the server, but the silent people who might just be playing to wind down after a long day. I do admit to RDMing later in the night, but during this time, I do not believe I was RDMing at all. Like I expressed earlier, I do tend to get wild with my words. While there is no actual proof of any of these words being said/not said I can assure you that I do NOT use the words "landwhale", "chink", or "dyke". Those words are not apart of my vocabulary. Someone else may have said those words during the time I was on the server but it was not me and I think it is unfair to me to embllish the report against me with those. I will admit to using the words "faggot", "nigger", "bitch", and "cunt" however. I was made aware that were are not to use those words against someone with malice intent. Again, there is a difference between trash talk and actual hate speech/attempts to marginalize a person or group of people. While all trash talk might be considered poor sportsmanship, it has also become apart of the gaming community culture. I will absolutely call someone a name after I kill them, especially if they challenge/take the opening shot against me. It's apart of the game at this point, and not just this game, but most online competitive multiplayer games in general. If someone told me to stop using said language against them I would respect their wishes. As to the RDM in the screenshot, this was during the time where the server was absolute chaos from the other group of trolls that joined the server. I fully admit to RDMing and will take responsibility for my actions. My intention was that I was trying to kill them (which I know is not the correct option but as I stated before, that is a lapse of judgement that I truely regret making) and that one screenshot does not share the whole story. I understand that two wrongs don't make a right and the best option would have been just to get the help of a staff member or sign off but I was caught up in what was going on instead of actually making logical and appropriate decisions, another choice I regret making. I do understand the reason behind my ban and I know there is consequences to be paid for every action. I hope that by reading this appeal you can understand my side of the story and why I got caught up in the action of what was happening on the server. I'm going to use this as a learning experience even if I don't get a second chance since I truely did enjoy playing on this server but one night of poor decision making can ruin what I had. Witnesses: Zarb, AlterVaas, Neferpitou, Weedle, Aphetoros, DodaModa, Sardine Some of the above witnesses were members of the group who came on the server to troll. I'm including their names as reference. Link to the original report: http://www.moatgaming.org/forums/topic/1750-throw-dat-ass-in-a-prayer-circlcomplaint/
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